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Axel Revolver · Sep 24, 2005, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Just wondering if this is a good build, comment what you think about it.

Strength 8 (+2)
Axe Mastery 16 (+4)
Tactics 3 (leftover attributes)
Beast Mastery 8

Flurry
Troll's Urgent
Res Sig
Swift Chop
Axe Twist
Disrupting Chop
Executioner's Strike
Eviscerate

Well, what do you think?

EDIT: I'm trying to get Axe Mastery to 16, but the only way I can think of getting to it is that my weapon does +1 Axe Mastery. If you know a way to get it up by one more point, please post it. Also, yes, I'm using Superior Axe Mastery.

Yukito Kunisaki · Sep 24, 2005, 04:58 AM // 04:58

Are you bringing the ranger part to make people think you're stupid? I hope so...

This is a half-assed warrior. Pure class types NEVER get anywhere. Why? They're just too stupidly easy to counter. Plain and simple. Bring something to AUGMENT your primary. Not 'trick' people into thinking you do something else.

Warriors with Ranger in them but no ranger stats can just bring Antidote Signet... Sheesh!

OverlordTyrael · Sep 24, 2005, 06:48 AM // 06:48

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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

Pure class types NEVER get anywhere. Why? They're just too stupidly easy to counter.

My spiking ranger build is pure ranger, and I have yet to encounter someone who could "counter" the build easily.

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I also believe you complimented it earlier. I'm not trying to make you sound stupid or anything, I completely agree with you that this is true on any class other than ranger, but just wanted to put that out there. I would replace Frenzy with Tiger's Fury since you happen to be Ranger Secondary anyways, and put in a Sup Axe if you're doing an organized team build (a monk will keep you alive, you need to focus on damage output). I've played against many Frenzy using warriors with both PvP guilds I've been in, and if I was using my ranger spiker, you would be dead in 2-3 shots or about the span of 2 seconds.

Photeus · Sep 24, 2005, 06:52 AM // 06:52

And that is Because Rangers can pretty much handle about any situation, especially with a capable healer behind your back.

However, straight out Warriors are better off comboing with their secondary. As was said, this one could be improved with Antidote signet (which would remove some degens, not to mention 'warrior bane' blindness)

Also, if someone shorts your adrenaline, you're out 4 skills on your bar. Way too many combos to take this little warrior down. Bring 2-3 spammable attack skills, I'd say even trade healing sig for Troll Ungent (unless you want 0 Wilderness) Just seems way too offensive, to the point where I can see a Chain Lightning blast doing about 250 to you (which could outright kill you if you've taken some hits already) (And yes, it could hit you, even with the small blast radius.

Eonwe · Sep 24, 2005, 06:56 AM // 06:56

You can get away with running pure builds with rangers and warriors for the most part. It doesn't really take away from their ability to dish out sustained dps.

To the OP:

You should always shoot for 16 in your weapon attribute.

Let's forget about the first build, and focus on the second one. As far as I'm concerned, no warrior build is complete without sprint, so you'd want to add that in there. Take out Axe Twist and put in Sprint. Also, you have 8 tactics, so throw Fear Me in there instead of penetrating blow. I would also drop Axe Rake for Executioner's Strike, since your main spike is going to be evis + executioner's. If you do that, it looks like a solid build to me.

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Just seems way too offensive, to the point where I can see a Chain Lightning blast doing about 250 to you (which could outright kill you if you've taken some hits already) (And yes, it could hit you, even with the small blast radius.

I don't see how a warrior build can be *too* offensive. Warriors are supposed to be dealing damage... also, you mentioned troll unguent. Hopefully you were just kidding around.

Edit: Also, 250 damage? Where'd you come up with that

? It would be 132 damage, if you were frenzied (given that you're using glad's armor, a superior absorption rune, knight's boots, and a -2 while in stance shield; which you should be using).

Axel Revolver · Sep 24, 2005, 10:38 AM // 10:38

Well, I changed it up a bit, took some of your advices. This is sort of like an earlier build I used, the only thing different was that instead of Executioner's Strike was Axe Rake.

I am also a W/R for a reason, to run people, it's the fastest runner in my opinion. W/Mo can heal, but takes more time. From all the runs I've done, and Droknar races, W/R ftw. They are faster, can heal fairly well, and dodge alot more than W/Mo can, from what I've seen that is. Like I said, this is my own opinion.

9th Requiem · Sep 24, 2005, 02:26 PM // 14:26

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Originally Posted by Axel Revolver

Well, I changed it up a bit, took some of your advices. This is sort of like an earlier build I used, the only thing different was that instead of Executioner's Strike was Axe Rake.

I am also a W/R for a reason, to run people, it's the fastest runner in my opinion. W/Mo can heal, but takes more time. From all the runs I've done, and Droknar races, W/R ftw. They are faster, can heal fairly well, and dodge alot more than W/Mo can, from what I've seen that is. Like I said, this is my own opinion.

I thought this was a PvP build? If you want to run, then Ascend, and switch back and forth. I've found my W/R to be mediocre at best in PvP.

On topic, I'd say your build should drop Healing Signet in TA/Tombs/GvG if you know there's going to be a monk around. I'd also contemplate dropping Executioner's strike for a defensive stance, but then again I play tactician warrior, so might work out differently. Disrupting Chop is a great choice, and with Tiger's it should regen pretty fast.

The Red Knight · Sep 24, 2005, 03:15 PM // 15:15

axe twist is trash bring axe rake instead :/

Neo-LD · Sep 24, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45

... I guess people have given up trying to convince people the Frenzy > TF? That was a huge debate here a couple weeks ago. But here we have a TF war thread and no one seems to be paying much attention...

For me, Frenzy is just totally superior, but yet in every pvp staging area you can find lots of people saying LF TF AXE WAR!!!! or AXE WAR w/ TF LFG!!! as if TF wars are actually better. I mean, I can understand "LF e/mo smiter" or "LF interupt ranger" cus they are actually dominating characters, but TFwar? Not in the same league.

At least when Im party leader, TF wars dont get invited. Use Frenzy and Sprint instead.

JYX · Sep 24, 2005, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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Originally Posted by Neo-LD

... I guess people have given up trying to convince people the Frenzy > TF? That was a huge debate here a couple weeks ago. But here we have a TF war thread and no one seems to be paying much attention...

I got tired of the issue just reading those threads. I started writing a reply to this thread but half way through just gave up...all thats gonna happen are flames.

Axel Revolver · Sep 24, 2005, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by The Red Knight

axe twist is trash bring axe rake instead :/

Crippling them won't do much, for they may be slowed down, but you'll most likely have eles, rangers, or any other projectile classes to take them down. While Axe Twist can do Weakness to them, and I don't need to explain what the effects are, it's pretty simple. Yes, a Monk can easily heal them over it, but it's about the same thing for someone being crippled

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Originally Posted by Everous

I got tired of the issue just reading those threads. I started writing a reply to this thread but half way through just gave up...all thats gonna happen are flames.

I have switched from Tiger's Fury and Healing Sig to Flurry and Troll's Urgent because I find that thread for Flurry quite understanding, thanks for the help everyone.

Yes, my Warrior is ascended, and he's a great runner for Droknar

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